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- to the situation in Indonesia, He said this was a
most frustrating problem, dealing w ith Sukarno. He said that no new
U.S . economic assistance was going to I ndonesia and that we had daily
control of small shipments still moving to Indonesia which were
- but this may not
be s o. We should look again at our programs and examine all ideas
without thinking whether or not they can be done without increasing
our expenditures .
{8) The Defense Department i s studying several new military
recommendations made
- their new military plans.
It is unlikely that present political actions will meet th e situation.
should plan for a bigger political effort to reverse the current trend .
political actions should be proposed for consideration.
We
New
An overall
- there are str onger.
Willia1n Bundy: As to South Vietnam, Prime Minister Khanh has suspended the
constitution and t he Buddhists have made their demands on the government. The
Military Council will meet tonight to elect a new President. A new Na tional Asse m
- the Chinese have such a device.
B. The removal of Soviet Chairman Khrushchev - - there is no one cause,
but many.
Secretary Rusk: Wi th regard to the recent British election, we have an under
standing that there will be direct consultation with the new
- becoming an ou t - an d - out Communist
state.
He asked Sec r etary Rusk and Mr . Hel ms to report to the
group on r e cent Indonesian developments.
The Secretary noted that on his recent trip to Asia , he had
met with many signs of a new mood and n ew
- the sending of U . S.
military forces to Vietnam would require a new Congressional
Re solution. He felt that our sending troops to Europe i n the early 1 50s
was not a relevant analogy.
The President asked the group what Ambassador Taylor wou l d
be taking
- Thieu is a stabilizing force. He prefers to sit in the back
ground, consequently, he will not take the post of Prime Minister. The present
Saigon Government framework is solid but the members of the new government
are not yet well - known to us
- in
New York, and this provides an opportunity for the broadest high-level
consultations.
Security Coun sel.
Secretary Ball reported his conversation with Foreign Secretary
Brown in which he told the British we would not use the veto on an
African race
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Secretary Clifford said that the Germans have an eno r mous need for
new military aircraft. We should be able to work something out in the area
of joint production of new p lanes .
Unde r Secretary Nitze discussed the prospects for the F - 5 and estimated
- pressur es .
McGeorge Bundy summarized briefly the latest U.S . intelligence
estimate of Hanoi ' s reaction to a new U. S . air strike . (A copy is attache d. ) ( Tab D)
The President sugg ested w e discuss our position w ith the Soviet Ambas
sador
- to upgrade ARVN units with
M - 60 machine guns and grenade launches as well as a new mortar. There
will be new e quipment avail able by the time the 140, 000 new recruits are
trained. H e reported that an effort must be made to also improve the RF
and PF
- in
Soviet policy, decisions which have yet
to be made , and possible new developments
not yet susceptible to our detection .
II. In the past two year s the Soviets have expanded
their ICBM force by adding l aunch sites at the
II
existing major
- proposals when as ked a bout them
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some days ag o .
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Mr . McCone said the photographic intelligence shown the President
was so new that there had been little time to analyze it. He said that
neither
- , will not be matched. It
is also too late to arrange for additional. arrivals to India this
yea:r. Accordingly, we propoze to focus negot£ati ons exclusively on
a comprehensive early 1968 iLipor t proGX"a.m wi.tb. accompanying reforms.
The New Indian Harvest Create
- : Reviewed in summary form the Vietnam negotiations since
October 9 when the new phase opened in Paris.
a. On October 14 he informed the three Presidential can didates tha t
the DRV was prepared to sit down with representatives of the South
Vietnamese
- calm. The President 1 s message to De Gaulle and the latter's
reply probably had a favorable effect on the market, over and above its
political impact.
2.
First assessment of the measures taken by the French government:
The new exchange controls are s
- prepared notes on the
following items:
a. Soviet Space Activities --Another Soviet effat to reach
Venus i s now in flight. He expressed grav e concern about a New York
Tixnes story by John. Finney revealing that two previous Soviet efforts
to reach
- the
time he is in New York he will see 70 or 80 Foreign Ministers. This
opportunity provides a useful review of bilate r a l problems in addition to useful
discussions of UN i ssues .
2 . As to African representatives , they are better than they used
- position to decide what
to do in two weeks.
The Attorney General asked whether it was absolutely necessary for the
President to make a determination now.
Director Bell said it was so far as approving any new obligations. A deter
mination cannot be put off
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In response to a reques t from t he President, Mr. lvlcCone reported
that there was nothing new out of Vi etnam this morning worthy of
mention . Secretary Rusk said that we had preliminary information
about what might become an important new development , l. e
- . In sum, he felt there was nothing to indicate
any massive movement of funds . He s aid we were not interfering.
At the President's request for comment, Mr . Bundy said the
following about his new assignment; He would be in familiar company and
would do
- of evidence
from the North Vietnamese.
General McCon n ell:
Our bombing is ineffective because of the restrictions
placed upon the Air Force . We should lift these restrictions and we would then
g et results .
l'OP SECRET/SENSII lvE
SERVICE SET
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New
- , 000 men. The Chiefs are opposed t o the deployment of U.S. forces in t he
highlan ds of South V ietnam and want t he new forces to be used as a mobile
rese rv e near the coast.
Gene r al Wheele r: The ARVN fo rc es d i d not do as well a s we expected
- ) an~ Ambas sador Go l dberg will give his views on the prob l em
as seen from New York.
Secret ary Rusk:
This is first a UK problem, then a UN problem, and only
then is it a U . S. problem. We should not take a dominant role but should seek
to get the parties
- elections in which the Communist Party did better than the
Socialists . The result will be difficult negotiations before a new Government can
be formed .
Current East German act ivity, such as travel restrictions now being ilnposed,
indicate that the East
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to avoi d undermi ning the confidence which exists between the President and
Ambassador Taylor. No great new decisions are expected to result.
Under Secretary Ball Reviewed the problem of military assistance to Jordan.
The Arab States are jointly tryi ng
- to approve a
new and expanded UN mandate covering Cyprus. We do not think Council action
is necessary but the problem is in the hands of the Secretary General and the heat
is off us. The Turks can more easily live with th e failure of the Secretary
General
- interes t s ·in t he continent .
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Maghrebian economic cooperation; it has caused new
problems of internal stability in Morocco and Tunisia
and new anxieties about the military strength of r adical
Algeria; it has opened new
- off and he would comment
later.
Ambassador Ball: The session of the General Assembly meeting in New York
will probably be the most routine in UN history, barring some unforeseen event.
(See copy of State Summary of UNGA issues attached.)
The following
- the cards we have had to play in this field.
Secr etary Fowler
indicated that he was seeing Mr. Schweitzer of the IMF and private
bankers from New York i n the next coupl e of days, and we could begin
laying any ground work necessary.
The President then said
- , the new Thai troops are doing very well, the Koreans are e.>..1:ra
ordinary, and the Australian units' morale is very high.
Two problems which need attention:
1. The Communists are trying to win over the youth of South Vietnam.
In Saigon, the youth
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T he nuclear test site in Communist China can be co-mp1etea within t wo to
2. The Soviets are undertaking a vigorous ICBM program.
been held of a new weapon, the SS - 10 ,
Many tests have
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- the present period.
The President reviewed thr ee years of involvem e nt in the Vietnam problem,
expressing doubt chat an unusually large amount of tim e w;i.s spent consider ing
new proposals or changes in policy. Our strategy has been the same for three
- a month.
Mr. Mar ks : Urged ( a ) a conference of world intellectuals to stress the economic
cos t s and secur i t y liabilities of nucl ea r weapons; (b) using the 20 th anni versary
of the Baruch pro p osa l s as th e occasion for a bold new U.S . initia
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He declined to tell our Charge in Vientiane whether the Hanoi leaders told
him anything new.
The President:
We must get the news fastest about the Ronning mission .
Secretary Rusk:
Prior to executing any new orders on bon1bing, we must give
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our looking to new funds .
Fowler said he disagreed with one sentence in the State report,
which was the suggestion that we might have to do more than one-third
in the year ahead if Japan and Western Europe didn't come through.
He urged that we stand
- and NAT O , and to talk about our relations with
the Russians and Eastern Europeans.
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Secretary Rusk will summarize the issues and possib le ways o f dealing
with them. Secret ary Clifford will t a l k about the defense of Western Europe
a and the new
- to a question as to what the Cong r essional leaders should be
told when they joined the group for the formal NSC Meeting at 10: 30, the
President said he would ask Secretary McNamara to report on the South
Vietnamese raid and to give any new information about
- have 50 percent fewer people
stationed in Europe a n:i are spending only $7 million in the European area. One
way would be to create events which would attract attenti on. We could send
personalities to Europe who would command the news. The Vice
